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Problem Adding items

Postby Rakoon on Wed May 08, 2013 6:29 pm

Hello,

i try to add some items in clients but when i need to drop its not coming, i capture so the pix will explain what i did, i mange STB , STL , then next add new in ZSC adding the ZMS and DDS for the items

but still not coming when drop

i hope some one can help me to mange this

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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby PurpleYouko on Wed May 08, 2013 6:40 pm

Simple answer is that you must keep your STB and ZSC entry numbers the same.

You put in your new item at row 29 in the STB then made an entry in the ZSC at position 8790
You need to make it at position 29 otherwise you will never be able to access your item.

STL doesn't matter since it uses a text string from the STB to find it at any position within the STL
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby Rakoon on Wed May 08, 2013 7:19 pm

yea lol

but also i try with 29 its still doesn't drop

is there anythings more need to do because or this ways not correct ?

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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby PurpleYouko on Wed May 08, 2013 7:29 pm

Well I'm not familiar with that editor but I did notice that you did not have mesh 0 selected for the stuff that you set up.
In Sethy and Maxxon's ZSC editor (the one I use) it defaults to mesh 0 when you select the item. Not sure if it works that way in yours or not.

Also all your position and scale data is set to zero.
Those values are typically NOT zero
in theory if you set scales to 0 then you should display an infinitely small object i.e. 1 pixel.

Try copying in all the values from a similar item to see if that works.
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby Rakoon on Wed May 08, 2013 7:43 pm

Hello,

its simple and same maxon

i load it at ZSC editor

its fine number 29

but i don't know what is the real things missing its should be drop even with error at less i will know how to mange the locations, but its not drops at all :!:
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby PurpleYouko on Thu May 09, 2013 3:17 pm

try loading up an item that is already in the ZSC.

If you want a gun then try item 231 (bubble gun)
You will see that it has all the data filled in for the scale, attach points and so on.
Just copy the data from item 231 into your entry.
You can even go to your own selection then type in 231 in the "copy location" box then hit the "copy" button
You will need to adjust the mesh and dds components to those of your own entry but other than that you should be able to leave everything just like it is for the bubble gun
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby Rakoon on Fri May 10, 2013 10:19 am

PurpleYouko wrote:try loading up an item that is already in the ZSC.

If you want a gun then try item 231 (bubble gun)
You will see that it has all the data filled in for the scale, attach points and so on.
Just copy the data from item 231 into your entry.
You can even go to your own selection then type in 231 in the "copy location" box then hit the "copy" button
You will need to adjust the mesh and dds components to those of your own entry but other than that you should be able to leave everything just like it is for the bubble gun
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Hello PY,

i did same what you told me its not drop from 29 also i copy same location after to be sure its drop or there is a problems

i change it with bubble guns with my guns its come to my legs i want to know why its not drop in 29 its same 100% from 231 copy and past same :shock:

even when i change i only change the dds and zms the other data is same

what more to do :roll:
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby PurpleYouko on Fri May 10, 2013 2:53 pm

i change it with bubble guns with my guns its come to my legs

So does that mean that you can actually see your item now when you change the mesh and dds for the bubble gun at 231, but in the wrong place?

Adding items is a minefield of potential screwups.
It usually takes me a half dozen attempts before i get it right.
I'm really not a pro at client editing so i can quickly get out of my depth too.

The kind of thing i keep doing is forgetting to put the files back into the VFS or not adding the edited STB/STL back into my server so that when I try to make the item, the server thinks it's a NULL item and doesn't even attempt to display it.
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby Rakoon on Fri May 10, 2013 4:50 pm

yea when i change i can see this is pic from it

but when i try 29 its not dropped at all :roll:

yea i delete and replace 100 time i know it will not take from first time

even if i change the bubble i need to replace the zsc 10 times lol

yea this what happen to me the server thinks its null,

i thinks the problems with number 29 or empty place or the next vgn not add or read when we add any new things on it :shock:

i will come crazy lol :lol:, I try 100 time with my side maxxon program ,I copy past all the time i am sure its 100% same as you told me ,But i don't know why its happen in this way

there is no clear explanation about adding items .
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Re: Problem Adding items

Postby Blackdpd on Fri May 10, 2013 9:43 pm

I think that it shows this way because you need to reposition the 3d model.

i dont know if this is a completely new item or 3d model. but if thats it then try imorting an existing model while u have this model. and then change the direction of it 90 degrees or something.

you need to try a few times untill u have the right position.

i hope it helps.
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